Though I've spent much of my time working on Of Kings and Killers, I know (from the 8,761 emails and messages and comments I've gotten on the subject) that what you guys are really waiting on is Uncrowned. So, since Uncrowned didn't come out yesterday (as I jokingly suggested it would in my April Fool's post), when is it coming out? Before skeletons dance Before pumpkins swallow candle-lights Before bats hang from rafters and cobwebs paint the corners Uncrowned will haunt you first See if you can crack that master-level riddle, Batman! A devious person might suggest that, to make any comment such as this, I must have already written some percentage of Uncrowned as well as Of Kings and Killers. Well, indeed I have written a measure of both. Here's one line (out of context) from Cradle 7, Uncrowned: Not enough?
All right, how about a second line that is actually included in Uncrowned. Get ready to have your minds blown that I would include such an original line:
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Ferrouswheel
8/2/2019 09:19:04 am
Woo, October 1st it sounds like!
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Nadelesc
8/2/2019 10:25:07 am
What if it happens to be next year, before Halloween...
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Bob Galleon
8/21/2019 02:57:04 am
Easy there, satan
Mike Futala
8/29/2019 12:17:57 pm
I'm interpreting this as September 1st.
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Gr8dayne
8/2/2019 09:19:57 am
Well, at least before Halloween.
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Aaron
8/2/2019 09:59:08 am
Yes before Halloween, but he didn't specify what year. So technically Will can can publish it in six years and still say he did not lie. This is the blog of dubious intent
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Cool Person
8/27/2019 04:32:55 pm
Yes, he could, but will has churned out books quite fast in the past before, and well over a year seems like far to long of a wait for him, especially for something that a majority of his readers are begging for
Your Benevolent Dictator
8/2/2019 09:23:14 am
So basically one thing on the April Fools schedule was true. The release date of OKAK
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Ravi
8/2/2019 09:29:04 am
Aww man, I was hoping it would be delayed more!!! I wanted you to focus on your isekai harem instead.
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X-over
8/2/2019 09:35:34 am
Guys, look at the progress bar! “136%” “Elder Remnant” “Calder battled Lindon for supremacy.” “Of Uncrowned and Killers” ...I suppose this means that Of Killers and Kings is coming out either way, if it’s in the title and Shera isn’t worried about being kicked out (she’s probably sleeping). Here’s a thought: where do all the timelines intersect? Traveler’s Gate probably takes place before Sea/Shadow based on the THOUSAND-YEAR OLD records of the “Wanderer” who is probably Valin. But where does Cradle fit in? Also, are these the right names for the Iterations?
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JorMox
8/2/2019 10:00:50 am
You have it right, it is Cradle, Asylum, and Amalgam.
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Chris
8/2/2019 10:09:51 am
The world names are correct for sure. I believe I saw it written somewhere, don't quote me though, that the timeline was Traveler's Gate happens first, then Cradle then EE. How far apart the time is I have no clue.
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Fenrys
8/3/2019 11:30:18 am
Yup I read my hero
Mr. Timeline
8/4/2019 01:19:02 pm
On November 29th, 2017 at 04:12:56 pm (I was in a different country at the time, so your numbers might be different), Will Wight said (and here I quote) “Traveler’s Gate takes place slightly before Cradle, and Elder Empire takes place after Cradle (or at least where Cradle is now). I don’t want to lock myself into anything more specific than that.”
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Jarthon
8/9/2019 09:08:18 pm
Mr. Timeline, indeed. I approve of both the specificity and the information.
Kandra
8/2/2019 09:38:15 am
Poor Hosoke... :P
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Drewe
8/2/2019 09:55:46 am
I don't know whether it would help, but there sure are lots of us that would pre order if you wanted to do that :D. I've heard preorders can help with rankings - but I also could be wrong...
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Benjamin Weikert
8/4/2019 05:59:18 am
You're not wrong. :)
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Kevin
8/2/2019 09:59:20 am
Feels like a life age of men since Shera decided to take her little snooze.
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Tim
8/2/2019 10:02:26 am
Hmm, based on that impenetrable riddle, I assume it's referencing the forecasted apocalypse, when civilization is in ruins, cobwebs infest corners, and our skeletons dance jigs in the remains of the great cities?
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Cool Person
8/15/2019 04:57:54 pm
250 years might be a bit to optimistic
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CM Carney
8/2/2019 10:05:52 am
Or is that the new Halloween in August? There's some fool petition to move the holiday.
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james
8/2/2019 10:20:25 am
Will is such a Troll. I guess we must answer those riddles three.
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Ellwood Bluez
8/2/2019 10:34:19 am
I have been waiting Of Kings & Killers for a whole minute! Very excited! Can't wait to see how the stories of Shera & Calder Martin play out. Very excited about Uncrowned also. Weight Shi Lindon has become one of my favorite book characters next to Drizzt Do'Urden, Pug and Thomas, and Mordechai Eleniel (probably spelled his last name wrong...but, oh well). You, sir, have become one of my favorite authors also. I enjoy your books and read them all in succession over again when a new one comes out. Thanks for the good reads and keep up the good work.
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Gallows
8/12/2019 07:09:34 pm
Illenial but close. The last book felt entirely too rushed until the ending. I go back and read it again every week or so (the ending).
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Jospeh Eddy
8/14/2019 01:28:14 pm
Oh boy Pug and Tomas, now those 2 rascals rolling around in the hay sure do bring back wonderfully epic memories. Thanks for that my friend!
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Cool Person
8/15/2019 04:59:21 pm
Weight Shi Lindon... now that's a proper name.
Bill Redflame
8/2/2019 10:46:30 am
Uck... these riddles... going to need to startup a kickstarter to build the BAT COMPUTER to process them.
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Lashan
8/2/2019 11:04:12 am
I really need to send another 239 emails to WW re: UNCROWNED release date to get the total count to 9,000 even.
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grumpy31700
8/2/2019 11:25:26 am
Woohoo! Gives me enough time to reread the cradle series a few more times and finish some other series. I hope pre-order is up soon so I can just lay my money down and forget about it until release date!
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Two Good
8/2/2019 11:36:38 am
We appreciate all of your works Will. Don't feel pressured to out something else out!
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In Awe
8/2/2019 12:37:02 pm
How do you write so quickly.
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Jeremiah
8/2/2019 01:33:57 pm
Will... I love you man but... I'ma sic an elder on you. Not that I don't want Uncrowned but okakokakokak?
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Tim
8/2/2019 02:17:20 pm
Woohoo, not that much longer. This time I will not make the mistake of starting my re-read too soon.
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Emily
8/2/2019 03:02:28 pm
So there’s the uncrowned proof...where’s the of kings and killers proof?
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Mark Jaeger
8/2/2019 03:26:43 pm
I love the orthos shirt I just hear Travis Baldree saying “The Dragon.... ADVANCES” every time I read it but I think it would be better as a more life like draconic tortoise with realistic flames. Orthos isn’t supposed to look like a plushie right? Dross on the other hand is total plushie material! Sorry if this offends. I’m definitely getting a Dross shirt :)
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Sawger
8/5/2019 07:36:30 am
I know right terrible orthos 4/10
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Fiddler
8/2/2019 03:51:48 pm
So before Halloween, but in 2019 or 2020???
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TLR
8/2/2019 05:21:59 pm
...
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Hosoke/Jeremiah
8/4/2019 05:31:04 am
Agreed
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Patricia Murray
8/2/2019 05:53:20 pm
It says that OKAK is at 136% Hoping that means he is in the last draft! I love Cradle but want to see what happens in Elder Empire too.
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Count De Monet
8/2/2019 10:13:10 pm
I love The Cradle series more, but feel that Underlord left us at a good place to wait while you finish OKAK. I am interested in how Calder's story ends.
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The Eternally Impatient
8/6/2019 11:17:03 am
Underlord ended on not ONE but TWO cliffhangers, and is the exact opposite of a good place for a break. Personally I thought Ghostwater left at a nice pausing point to work on OKAK. Now I’m torn because I really want to read more about Shera & friends, (though Caulder can die in a ditch for all I care, and yes I have read both perspectives up to this point). I am dying to get follow up on the ending(s) of Underlord.
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Madeline
8/9/2019 04:29:50 am
See, I would agree with Shera and friends' approach, except having multiple leaders in this setting provides an excellent excuse for an Elder corrupted (or just greedy) leader of a sub territory to point at the leader of another sub territory, say "They're working for the Elders!" and declare war. Potential for mass chaos is high.
Count De Monet
8/18/2019 05:30:25 pm
Yes, Underlord left us with 2 cliffhangers.
BlackMage
8/3/2019 01:08:15 am
Two months is not too early to set up a pre-order page on Amazon. Please take my money NOW!
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Magnus
8/3/2019 05:25:47 am
Technically now is before Samhain. Can it just be release now? 😀
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Mark Jaeger
8/3/2019 08:52:36 am
Many people begin decorating for Halloween weeks beforehand Will! muahahaha!!
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Manny
8/7/2019 10:18:00 pm
I’m with mick Jagger on this, several weeks beforehand would be awesome.
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Steven Brown
8/3/2019 12:16:47 pm
I for one am extremely glad I stumbled upon the Cradle series a year or so ago. It was so good that I burned through everything else he has written. I have noticed that with the demand of the books he has been producing them fairly quickly now and at least for the last one it seemed it was a little bit shorter though all the better for how it ended. I just got done with my second read through the series when it came out so I only read Underlord by itself. I'm looking forward to reading a series and as a writer myself trying to glean as much as I can. Translation I won't try to steal everything that's not nailed to the floor I'll just try to figure out how the hell he nailed it.
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PASSTHEPOTATOES
8/3/2019 08:32:44 pm
My bet is October 31st. BEFORE all of the Halloween req's (Oct30)
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kris kerr
8/4/2019 11:01:40 am
Thank you Will. This is the kind of post/update I look forward to. I understand you're working frantically to get the next book(s) released while still sticking to your high standards for storytelling. I can also appriciate how difficult it must be to write the OKAK books, I have a difficult time just READING the dual storyline, I can't imagine keeping everything straight to WRITE both of them at once. So thank you for also being able to work in the next Cradle book.
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Matt S.
8/4/2019 07:23:57 pm
I hope your going by the current day for All Hallows Eve since it was originally held mid May.
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Banks
8/4/2019 09:02:38 pm
Guess I'll just hibernate until then.
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Andy
8/5/2019 06:30:39 am
THANK YOU! Thank you for letting us know. It will give me a chance to read some of your other work. Keep up the good writing and we will continue to read.
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Tom yack
8/5/2019 09:24:26 am
The funny thing is, the bats go up October first here. Guess I get it a copy before all you patient and reasonable people.
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Madeline
8/5/2019 10:53:10 am
The bats are already up here.
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Garbagiel the raccoon
8/5/2019 11:49:29 am
If Orthos scenes arent in the next cradle book, I'm going to send another 8761 emails to you Will!
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Madeline
8/6/2019 06:19:10 am
I'll help.
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Jason Wang
8/7/2019 02:34:57 pm
Definitely. I don't think Will is going to be THAT cruel, but who knows? He sometimes is a troll.
Kazology
8/8/2019 01:19:53 am
We're going to see at least 8 months pass in Uncrowned. That seems like *plenty* of time for Orthos to shake things up in SV and maybe teach Kelsa enough to get her to Jade.
CN
8/11/2019 11:05:00 am
That cliffhanger about SV seems like he's setting up for a whole new series focused around Kelsa, Orthos, Jai Long and his sister. Could be really interesting as a a second series once OKAK is finished. I think I've read Will say he wants to be able to start a new project in the future and alternate between series.
QuarterDollarKing
8/5/2019 03:44:37 pm
Love that firey dragon turtle! He reminds me of my favorite Hunter pet in WoW.
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bukuwawa
8/5/2019 04:27:50 pm
cool so bloodfallen march 1, got it
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ThatGuy
8/5/2019 09:47:38 pm
I sorta feel bad(I don’t actually feel bad because I’m a selfish bastard and love me some Cradle) for Elder Empire people because it keeps seemingly getting tossed on the back burner in favor of Cradle. Whether that is because Cradle is just flowing better for Will or because Cradle is his golden goose so his unconscious makes it flow easier or whatever, anyway I’m glad. I know the majority of Will’s fans would be disappointed for anything other than Cradle to be released every release. It’s like anything other than Cradle would have to come out like only a couple months after a Cradle release when the expectation of another Cradle release is low. That’s totally not fair to Will but it is what it is when you ride the sacred tiger.
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Madeline
8/6/2019 07:48:22 am
See, I'd be happy to wait for another Cradle book, if the Cradle books didn't end on major cliffhangers that leave me desperate to know what happens next. And what happens next could be literally anything, just because they're supposed to compete in the Uncrowned tournament doesn't mean the tournament will go as planned (see Ghostwater, team exploration of abandoned research lab turned into frantic fighting for their individual lives). If the last chapter of Underlord had been the first chapter of Uncrowned, I would be less anxious to see what happens next, because we do have some idea of what to expect. While with Elder Empire... the structure of the series gives me some idea of how it will end (if one set of protagonists wins, people who like that storyline will be disappointed, both sets cannot win, therefore both will likely lose) and so there isn't the desperation to see which completely unexpected thing will happen next.
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Chris
8/12/2019 08:50:10 am
Its funny that you mention one side has to win, because in my mind over and over as read these books there seems to be only one constant on that front. "Humans are not going to win". There are 7 incarnations of Chaos, beings that rival Abbidan Judges in power and probably supersede them in longevity on Asylum. These are beings that eat iterations for breakfast. They are not going to lose to people who are not even powerful enough to challenge the top tier of beings on Cradle. Only way I really see EE ending is us realizing everything has been a careful plot of the Great Elders all along and humanity/The Way loses. While the Elders are unleashed on the Williverse
Madeline
8/12/2019 01:10:03 pm
Actually, I don't think one side has to win! It's one of the four possible outcomes (both sides win, one side wins, both sides lose) but I do agree that both sides lose is the most likely outcome, and that's why I don't care about the ending as much as the next Cradle book. OKAK feels too much like watching a slow motion train wreck with napalm thrown on top.
Sword Immortal Darknorth
8/8/2019 08:55:14 am
I think Cradle is just closer to what Will is reading right now. From what he said a few months ago, he's been following mostly translated light novels, so that's what he finds easiest to write. A lot of those a cultivation novels, so it's no surprise Will finds it easy to write a xianxia-inspired novel when that's what he's been reading.
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Ironbeagle
8/10/2019 09:04:06 pm
Makes sense, and I'd just like to give a nice thumbs up to the name! I'm rereading DE now before it's behind the paywall on Wuxiaworld.
Sword Immortal Darknorth
8/29/2019 06:50:20 pm
It's a great series, and I hope you enjoy it. I followed the translation for a long time and it continues to be something I'd call a staple of the translated cultivation novel genre.
Simon
8/15/2019 01:06:06 pm
Feel worse for Traveler's Gate/Blade people! I am waiting in suspense about SO MANY things!
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William WELLER
8/6/2019 02:00:46 pm
Will I saw a website by an author not nearly as gifted as you that had snippets and whole chapters based on readers paying a patron fee so for 10 bucks a month I would get insider info or snippets for 100 a month chapters and even unfinished works to satisfy wealthier fans lol and provide a nice monthly income! Not to start a class war but was an interesting way of acquiring backing.
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Chris
8/12/2019 08:55:43 am
Its wild out there man, I know there are authors out there who have probably written less then "2" books by word count of what Will has written over the last year but are bringing in anywhere from 3,500-4,500 dollars a MONTH posting chapters on patreon, that is 42,000-54,000 dollars a year writing 2-3 chapters a week... That is amazing level of side hustle.
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Frank S
8/6/2019 02:35:26 pm
You are a Beast! But please, don't burn yourself out.
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PumpkinVision
8/6/2019 08:44:01 pm
Uncrowned... releasing in paperback, Kindle, audiobook, and t-shirt serial formats!
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Calera (I swear this isn’t a ship name)
8/11/2019 11:51:19 pm
How will OKAK end? Who will win? Both sides have fans (although Shera I believe has more), and they always seemed to be designed as two opposed protagonists, so if either side wins, there’s a whole set of disappointed people. Therefore, the series will likely end with one of several options:
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Diego
8/13/2019 07:05:38 am
I think Will explicitly said that won't happen. They're enemies, Shera blames Calder for stuff(partly Lucan's death), and Calder blames Shera for stuff(Urzaia's death and you know for partly kidnapping his wife.)
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Diego
8/13/2019 07:06:38 am
They* missed a they. Damnit.
Birdog
8/14/2019 09:51:57 pm
Or we could just read uncrowned.
Cool Person
8/15/2019 05:11:16 pm
thats.... actually a quite impressive list of options.
Avinash
8/21/2019 03:35:59 pm
@option 3
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The necromancer
8/12/2019 12:20:22 pm
I want UNCROWNED!!!!!!
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Alex
8/12/2019 12:22:23 pm
Me to! I love the series!
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Roller
8/12/2019 12:24:34 pm
Me as well
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Gunnar Crider
8/13/2019 09:30:55 pm
I can't wait. I have a few theories on what will happen. 90% sure he will at some point duel yerins group. 50% he will gain Arelius by using his arm on Eithan. 20% his relationship with Mercy changes. 10% the duel agianst yerins group is a death match but after the life path women is killed and before anyone else does (except maybe the third for lindons team) the next dredgod is fully awakened and halts the tournament. I'm very curious if any of these actually come out true.
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1st elder of the labyrinthine library sect
8/16/2019 09:31:29 am
so many books to little time
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Jens
8/16/2019 10:10:30 pm
I want to read about the adventures of Orthos and Kelsa and the Falling Leaf School =)
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Nerevar
8/22/2019 07:19:13 am
Oh this is great news. Managed to abstain from this blog for full three weeks and sure feels great hearing the good news.
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Jason Wang
8/22/2019 02:51:21 pm
With all of those emails being from my separate g-mail accounts! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Brian S
8/23/2019 08:25:56 am
It's all lies. I put my dancing skeletons on the porch yesterday, stuffed a candle down the throat of a surprised pumpkin, and threw a few bats in the web of a Darwin’s bark spider I imported from Madagascar.
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Jim
8/24/2019 05:27:14 pm
Any word on the Audible version? I went through the whole series on audible as I "read" when I am doing work or just need some variety of background noise to focus.
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Stephen
8/25/2019 07:31:50 pm
I am Also an Audible Listener, with any hope it will be like the other books in the series so far and out relatively quickly if not the same time as when the book releases.
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Steve
8/25/2019 06:14:54 pm
Accidentally re-read the Elder Empire too quickly, was hoping OKAK was going to come out earlier than later. Any release date hints on OKAK?
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ryan erwin
8/26/2019 07:47:21 am
It's around Halloween I'd guess
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Ann
8/26/2019 09:38:27 am
Will Wight is cycling through the Cradle book covers on his Facebook page. This happened the other times a new book was being released. Since Will is changing the cover every two days it looks like Uncrowned will be released on September 1st
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Cool Person
8/27/2019 04:35:09 pm
Right when his friend, Andrewe Rowe, is releasing his next book. Coincidence? I think not.
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Cool Person
8/27/2019 04:40:49 pm
Although, last time he cycled covers, it sas to give us book news. so... maybe coincidence.
Pavis
8/28/2019 10:45:16 am
No, he’s going to reveal the cover and announce it for October 1 release. He did the same thing for Underlord’s release
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Mark Jaeger
8/26/2019 10:17:38 pm
Can’t wait for the book Will, are you single?
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MJ
8/27/2019 07:45:30 pm
Lol 😂 why?
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Cool Person
8/27/2019 04:46:53 pm
Wait... So Asylum is OKAK world, but Suriels prescence mentioned that Asylum is where they keep Fiends of Chaos that represent potential lethal threats to Judges. If that is true, then why are humans living there? Yes, the eldari pact forbids Abidan from interfering in the fate of an Iteration, but if the Great elders, or Fiends of Chaos came from outside, then shouldn't they be considered an outside interference, like Li Markuth, and moved to another Iteration without any humans? Also, If Great Elders=Fiends of Chaos capable of killing judges, then how did the Emperor defeat multiple of them? Also, the OKAK empire is called the Auerelian empire, and Marcus Auerilius was a roman emperor. If anyone has any thoughts about any of these things, please let me know in the comments below.
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ThatGuy
8/28/2019 06:19:27 pm
Asylum needs to be connected to the way so that the Great Elders can be locked down in an ordered world. That means there needs to be human habitation for it to be possible for the iteration to have said connection to the way.
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Cool Person
8/28/2019 07:24:28 pm
That would make sense, but it still seems cruel. Still, for a important prison, wouldn't their be abidan guards their? that would kill great elders whenever they came back to life? my best guess is that great elders are under a curse that makes them far less powerful. would explain a lot of stuff.
Donkey
8/28/2019 10:17:49 am
Are we there yet?
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Phil
8/28/2019 03:50:16 pm
Any updates on whether or not a Kickstarter will be tied to this for extra-chocolately-goodness versions?
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Kung-Fu Tofu
8/31/2019 10:34:10 am
I have no time for these games! Where is book little man?!?! Show me your path so I may consume it!!!
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